For example, my wife ( a former pioneer ) said if she got reinstated; she couldn't get her pioneering back for at least 3 years. I'm like ''baby if you want to come back than just be a ''pioneer at heart " get the 50 to 70 hours without the ''title''. She said it's not the same. Can someone with privileges ( past Elders, Ministerial Servants, Pioneers, or Bethelites etc.) explain the importance of titles in with the JW's ?
That's one of the reasons why I'm still not ''coming back'' because I've seen people ( brothers or sisters )literary back-stab or stop being friends because of privileges.
More stories too come later.
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privilleges equals spirituality
by stillin inwhat a sad joke!
posters here talk about the "do more" pushiness in the organization and that is so true!
elders just assume that you want to carry microphones and work your way up the spiritual ladder to that blissful state of total immersion in "kingdom matters.
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What was the worst thing an "elder" ever did to you ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inthe worst thing an "elder" ever did to me was in 2008. i was in one congregation, but i wanted to return to my home congregation because i've been reproved there twice ( once private and the last one public ).
when i came into this congregation in 2007 i thought i was going to move up the food chain ( this congregation was full of older people, so i thought i would move up faster ).
but i got into some trouble in the congregation.
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Balammsass I'm so sorry you went thru that as a child.
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Thanks.
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What was the worst thing an "elder" ever did to you ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inthe worst thing an "elder" ever did to me was in 2008. i was in one congregation, but i wanted to return to my home congregation because i've been reproved there twice ( once private and the last one public ).
when i came into this congregation in 2007 i thought i was going to move up the food chain ( this congregation was full of older people, so i thought i would move up faster ).
but i got into some trouble in the congregation.
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I know what you guys and girls were thinking .lol
I had confessed my sins that I did up to that point . The whole thing started a few months after I left. It started after the 2008 Memorial , and my family and I went to Chill's . I saw Carl Ford ( the "alpha elder" of Central Compton Congregation ), and I asked him about a rumor that I heard (f.y.i, the rumor was that Central Compton & North Compton was going to be combined ). He got an attitude and started saying some really condescending things to me, and he ended the conversion by saying : "we'll talk ". Carl Ford proceeded to hold my card for another four months . I seen him at the district convention and I "apologized" ( faked it ). I got my publisher card all of a sudden . hmmm -
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What was the worst thing an "elder" ever did to you ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inthe worst thing an "elder" ever did to me was in 2008. i was in one congregation, but i wanted to return to my home congregation because i've been reproved there twice ( once private and the last one public ).
when i came into this congregation in 2007 i thought i was going to move up the food chain ( this congregation was full of older people, so i thought i would move up faster ).
but i got into some trouble in the congregation.
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The worst thing an "elder" ever did to me was in 2008. I was in one congregation, but I wanted to return to my home congregation because I've been reproved there twice ( once private and the last one public ). When I came into this congregation in 2007 I thought I was going to move up the food chain ( this congregation was full of older people, so I thought I would move up faster ). but I got into some trouble in the congregation. When the last reprove happened everybody changed up on me, so I said you know what I'm gonna go back to my old congregation. This is where the story and the "elders" there get very corrupt; I've been at my old congregation for about 7 months the P.O came up to me out in service he said: Hey Pitchess the "elders" in so & so congregation never sent your publisher card . I said oh I'll just go there and talk to the brothers. "
When I went there the "elders" made it seem that they forgot to send my card and it was all one big misunderstanding . Ok now two months go by, and still no publisher card. I found out over time that the "alpha" elder thought I went back to my old congregation because I "running" from judical reprove", so it became one congregation against the other. In the end beat the "alpha" , and got my card to my new congregation.
Central Compton Congregtion was the where it happened ( thanks Carl Ford ) .
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Anybody From South Los Angeles Area ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inif so do you remenber any big time elders from 1990-2010 or present because i'm from the l.a area .
or my l.a members could do a los angeles congregation roll-call..
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I just had to bump this thread because I know there are more people from the South L.A area that are on this site.
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Whathehadas, I just sent you a fouth P.M
by Pitchess Co-Gen insorry folks if this is too much .
thanks..
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Sorry folks if this is too much . Thanks.
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Anybody From South Los Angeles Area ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inif so do you remenber any big time elders from 1990-2010 or present because i'm from the l.a area .
or my l.a members could do a los angeles congregation roll-call..
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I got dissfellowshipped in 2009 .
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Anybody From South Los Angeles Area ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inif so do you remenber any big time elders from 1990-2010 or present because i'm from the l.a area .
or my l.a members could do a los angeles congregation roll-call..
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I dated a girl from the Pasadena area, so we probably met before ( I'm 27 years old by the way ).
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Anybody From South Los Angeles Area ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inif so do you remenber any big time elders from 1990-2010 or present because i'm from the l.a area .
or my l.a members could do a los angeles congregation roll-call..
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If so do you remenber any big time elders from 1990-2010 or present because I'm from the L.A area . Or my L.A members could do a Los Angeles Congregation roll-call.